Posts by under the radar

Thank you so much! I really appreciate your taking time to make information like this available. There's no telling how much good you're doing. Documentation is the antidote to deniability.

I can almost hear the Faithless Indiscreet Slavebuggers gnashing their teeth right now.

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The new service meeting

by John Aquila in

i wanted to relate an experience that happened this morning.

it is regarding the new format for the meeting on thursdays in my area.

its not word for word but im summarizing what i heard, the best i can remember.

Hot dang! This is the best thing I've heard in a LONG time! Man, I hope more and more JW's take a nice long look around like these ladies did and realize something is definitely "rotten in Denmark."

You gotta love little ol' ladies like your mom's friends! I'm so glad they're changing their wills to leave money to blood relatives instead of the money-grubbing Borg.

Thanks for posting this. You made my day!

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Someones trying to make $$ recording JW meetings

by Watchtower-Free in

.99 cents a month.

https://www.youtube.com/user/jwmeetings/featured.

under the radar

Hi, Beth Sarim. I was referring to the YouTube site that was selling audio recordings of the meetings. Once the congregation where the recordings are being made is identified, the Society could have the local elders order the person involved to stop doing so. They'd probably be threatened with being disfellowshipped if they didn't comply.

I don't think anyone will be able to shut down jehovahs-witness.com anytime soon. Simon works hard to keep stuff off here that would give anyone grounds to even try. He provides a valuable service by keeping this site up and running. It's a wonderful resource for anybody who's been affected by the Watchtower, one way or another. I hope it's around for a very long time.

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Someones trying to make $$ recording JW meetings

by Watchtower-Free in

.99 cents a month.

https://www.youtube.com/user/jwmeetings/featured.

under the radar

I have a feeling this site will be shut down very soon. The Society will find out who is behind it and have the local elders order him (or her) to stop. If they refuse, they could be disfellowshipped for "causing divisions," or some other "brazen" conduct like disregarding Theocratic Order or some such nonsense.

They only charge 99¢ a month, which is a fair enough price. But personally, you couldn't pay me $99 month to listen to that crap.

Sheesh! Just the idea of listening to the meetings gives me the creeps and makes me feel like I need a shower.

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Those keenly following umbertoecho ARC Brief Update.

by MightyV8 in

i feel it is comfortable to say,.

yes her arc hearing has come and gone.. yes her hearing was so powerful, her allotted time was tripled!.

yes, information handed over "mind blowing" response from arc.

under the radar

Is there a link to her specific testimony?

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Separated at birth?

by under the radar in

separated at birth?

hmmm.... one was the leader of a destructive self-serving organization that put its own interests above anything else, suppressed any dissent, and longed for the destruction of an entire world of people.. the other was governor wilhuff tarkin from the original star wars movie.. just sayin'.... .

under the radar

Separated at birth? Hmmm...

One was the leader of a destructive self-serving organization that put its own interests above anything else, suppressed any dissent, and longed for the destruction of an entire world of people.

The other was Governor Wilhuff Tarkin from the original Star Wars movie.

Just sayin'...

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Local Needs part given after Ministerial Servant left the organization

by cappytan in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbb8rt2bem8.

some crazy cult language in this talk.. some highlights:.

18:15 - obey.

under the radar

This talk might actually backfire and wake up some who didn't want to admit to themselves that the Society truly is a mind-control cult. Some of this stuff could have been taken directly from 1984.

One glaring fault was that this earnest appeal to ignore "the man behind the curtain" didn't even try to address any of the issues he said were causing problems in Houston. Serious, legitimate issues that a deserve a better response than "Never mind. Don't worry about it. Just obey and don't question anything."

The more I hear about this kind of crap, the more I hate the organization. In some ways, it's worse than the Mafia. True, there's no way to gracefully and honorably leave either. But at least the Mafia doesn't usually go after your family.

The Society's treatment of "apostates" and those either DA or DF or even sometimes simply faded has a lot in common with the Soviet purges of the 30's, 40's, and 50's. Of course, the Society doesn't actually murder their victims, but a Watchtower article from the late 50's implied that they would if they could get away with it. More and more, JW's are pushed to treat such ones, even close family members, as if they were already dead.

Emotional blackmail and social coercion are polite ways to term it, but that doesn't begin to describe the terrible harm it does to all concerned. Obedient JW's are often forced to suppress their natural feelings and affections and act in a way completely contrary to the way they would otherwise. It can require a complete personality change, a kind of Jekyll and Hyde effect. The ones shunned are treated as outcasts, worthless and despised. Warm and loving families can and sometimes do disintegrate into warring camps. I wonder how many lives have been totally ruined by this callous and arrogant policy masquerading as faithfulness to God.

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Tv's in Kingdom hall

by dothemath in

so now that the borg has taken all of the congregations money, there was just a resolution to get all new tv's, etc for the stage for the new meeting format.. i wasn't there, but it was a large sum.

somebody mentioned over 3000$.. all the congregations in the city are likely doing the same thing, and are getting all the equipment from bethel.. i was wondering if this was happening all most everywhere?.

can't see it in third world countries( might not even have internet).

under the radar

So let me get this straight... The Society just looted the congregations' accounts of every cent except a small contingency reserve, and now wants them to pony up thousands more to buy specific TVs and other equipment IN ADDITION to "contributing" their regular monthly pledge in perpetuity. Hmmm... Sounds like a good deal for somebody. Just saying'...

Oh yeah... "All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not." Direct quote from the Watchtower, November 2013 Study Edition, article "Seven Shepherds, Eight Dukes - What They Mean for Us Today," paragraph 17.

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Ray's Books. And Copyrights!

by DwainBowman in

jw
friends

the copyright owner has posted a message on the internet, and can be found below!.

ray franz.

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Yes, I know Cynthia died a while back, but this crap was going on long before she did, so she did in fact suffer financial loss because of the bootlegging. Now it's more a matter of principle and secondarily, helping Ms. Dykstra recover her legal costs for protecting the integrity of Ray's work. It's only fair, and she deserves whatever gain she winds up with. She's not trying to gouge anybody.